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understanding bioenergy the bridge

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between consciousness brain and the

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physical universe so good morning thank

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you very much I would like to thank SSE

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for the opportunity here and I'm

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bringing this issue to be discussed here

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because I think it's going to help us to

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understand the consciousness many of

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this consciousness manifestations and

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also convey a lot of different perhaps

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examples of consilience but before I

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start this let me give you a little

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information that I think is relevant for

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the context of this presentation so I am

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an electronic engineer working have

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worked with in so many different areas

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in electricity but also I have been

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having since I was very young like 10

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years old what people call out about

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experiences and throughout most of my

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life I had this experiences and in

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parallel with studying getting a degree

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I have always been a person very much

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interesting experimentation since I was

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quite young and then I always thought

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look we really need to have something

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more objective more academic more

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scientific to see if we can prove this

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so-called Arbor experience is real

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proof but certainly understand the

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respect when people who have never

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experienced this sort of phenomena when

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they say well where are the evidences so

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for a long time I tried to bring these

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two things together over time I start

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getting some results so here you see

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just some images showing what I mean

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with the other bad experiences similarly

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to what was discussed here yesterday

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with the near-death experience here I

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have a picture of some of the labs we

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have in our research campus in Portugal

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where people go really sorry really to

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try to have these sort of experiences

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but then what is that I call bioenergy

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here because it's not a very precise

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word people use many other expressions

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biofield pre energy are gone Seto energy

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therapeutic intention and on and on a

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very complete list of synonyms of

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bioenergy in fact contains more than 100

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different words from different languages

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different moments of our history but my

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main point in this presentation is to

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ask you to think well is this kind of

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set of energy real is something really

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objective or is just a way we use to

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explain some of our mind or

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consciousness manifestations if it is

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real is detectable in which way if we

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can detect objectively this this energy

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can can it be measured can we give it

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with time a unit a 0y scale when we

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cannot be beaut numbers quantities to

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some of these realities as you know our

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understanding our science progress

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instead of being only a qualitative

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perception analysis we can go to a

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quantitative analysis so we can develop

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models test equations and so on and

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something else that I always hear when I

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present this content well is it really

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necessary to bring the proof to the

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existence of this bioenergy as we have

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so many cases of people who can do

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healing and so many and a doctor

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evidences would be useful if we could

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create bring not exactly a proof of its

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existence but perhaps ways to understand

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better how this form of energy works

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because many times they see people

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trying to fit this into the known forces

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interactions or energy like that

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magnetic field and this was discussed

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here yesterday but we see that many

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times it doesn't seem it doesn't look

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like this kind of energy or force or

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interaction is electromagnetic and very

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important thing in my case how does it I

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mean how does bioenergy relate to

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consciousness because when I was

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experiencing this kind of phenomenon

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when I was young even recently when I

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feel myself outside of my body being the

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same person here right now same identity

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memories and I am out of my brain so the

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brain is there the work of the body

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functioning well but then when I come

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back to my brain how this thing

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consciousness connects to the brain

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makes the brain work so when we do

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properties the special things in those

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consciousness act on the brain and

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produce something like this and as it

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happened with electromagnetism so when

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we think of Volta Faraday ampair many

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these that we call electricity magnetism

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static electricity until enough

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knowledge was collected for Maxwell to

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bring the equations and organize these

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in such a better way so can we create in

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the future some sort of theoretical

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framework that is going to explain some

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things perhaps is going even to predict

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other things but then something really

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important here as I said before energy

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perceptions giving classes courses on

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this for more than 34 years is studying

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books going to Congress is going to see

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healing sessions and mediums we see that

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many times what we call energy as it was

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discussed here before is basically of

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information but many times this

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so-called energy behaves many fast is as

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a kind of a fluid or matter sometimes is

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a type of a force in some cases it

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behaves more like a field then can this

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energy be something kind of

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manifestation of the consciousness that

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we still don't have a name for or

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perhaps is all the above so I know

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energy is not the most precise word but

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just because it is the most non popular

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universal I will keep using it for a

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while until we can come up with

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something better than this

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with consciousness things get even more

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complicated there is no consensus or

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agreement on its definition even more

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because some people see it only as a

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state of something the brain can be

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conscious can express consciousness can

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be a property of something organic

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matter in a certain level of organic

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organization can have that property but

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we see more consciousness as a kind of

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entity that is in a way primary not only

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a result something that emerges from

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certain level of organization and then

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experiences and even the study of cases

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of near-death experiences near that

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experience cannot be a kind of

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laboratory or repetitive replicated

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experience but OBEs out of our

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experiences can and I see that is very

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important for us any of us even as

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researchers even the theoretical ones

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even the sceptical ones to try to have

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their own personal experience here by

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the end of the day when we were

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discussing some things in SSC we were

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getting some ideas there of how we could

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improve this kind of research and one

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thing typical of the traditional

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research is to keep this separation a

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research and experiment the researcher

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the core if the person has never

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bioenergy is in fact or set of energy is

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consciousness that seems to be

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non-physical multi-dimensional with this

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physical universe is what connects us as

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consciousness is to the physical body

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bioenergy under different names in fact

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has been known for millennia so when you

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see shamans there in my country Brazil

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history of size psychism paranormal

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conventional science has not come with

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how Chris approve another understanding

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detection that would be accepted by most

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of the people reaching a consensus so

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this kind of energy is possibly the

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vehicle of life as a whole you know it's

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expressions and mostly through this

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people call sigh phenomena psychic

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phenomenon so we could say that if we

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multi-dimensional and reality being

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organized many different levels so

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reality is in fact different levels of

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organization of matter and energy and

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consciousness so consciousness not being

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phenomenon of matter or energy but then

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consciousness when I am out of my body

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projected in lucid in and out about

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control something that many times bugs

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recollection of what happened but many

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channels of our senses vision hearing

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kind of mechanism affect our neurons

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body brain but also with this matter

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energy of the dimensions where we are so

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this to you at university having access

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to many labs I used the magnetometers I

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used Geiger counters I used so many

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different kind of sensors from juicers

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semiconductors nothing worked and then I

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bioenergy so I started using different

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electrical resistance in most of my case

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bridge for this lifeforce but I don't

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have time now to show this will let you

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different forms different ways to see if

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affects us our brain and perhaps even

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started with function MRI as you know it

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can show in our brain which areas are

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more active which ones are not this is

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basically done through the change of the

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net natural magnetic resonance of

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hemoglobin when some areas of the brain

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activate they use the oxygen and this

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change their frequency and also later

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spectroscopy there is using meant many

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times in chemistry to analyze the

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composition of some substances or the

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behavior of some molecules so here you

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see a typical system of MRI this is me

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inside of one of these machines

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I believe that nowadays I am among the

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people who have been the longest most

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time is stuck inside of a machine like

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this I can tell you at least the best

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point I know this is safe because I I

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perhaps have

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what 50 60 hours or more inside of

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machine one session sometimes of these

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like 3-4 hours

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it's good that I don't have

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claustrophobia okay and then here you

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see fMRI of my finger tapping one of the

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ways to see if the machine is working

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well not just sense not not too low you

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start doing this and then you see if it

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is working you stop how the signal

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should disappear and then you see if it

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is coherent with this with the

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laterality the side of our body this is

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just for reference there is nothing

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special here but it's just for you to

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see how much activation these little

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points of light you get but then now

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things get get interesting here there is

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one particular phenomenon very typical

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of out about experiences mediumship

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channeling that is called vibrational

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state to some of you who is that for

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instance Bob Monroe he mentioned this

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many times and many others there are

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many books showing that people feel a

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very strong vibration inside of their

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bodies that kind of internal resonance

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we try to measure this with other kind

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of sensors it is this electricity is

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just just a physical shaking no it is

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something else but it's something that

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we can learn how to provoke how we can

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induce so we don't need it should be

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just there waiting for this to happen

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this is something that can be replicated

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so this is me doing a technique in which

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we move our own bio energy up and down

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we start accelerating and then we start

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feeling a kind of resonance building up

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so here you can see my brain a lot more

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active than the finger tapping so this

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is just me and other people I I did this

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many times and then you see the level of

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activation there we still need to see

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with more people how this will we work

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this is me when I get a vibrational

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state so my colleagues doctors

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radiologists they got very surprised to

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see well but what is that that can get

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such a level of activation and of

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different areas of the brain something

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that I had in mind is there a particular

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part of the bring that is going to be

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more activated no not so far but one

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thing but all of us this kind of image

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is out of the skull as this is

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fine-tuned to hemoglobin the bold signal

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this shouldn't happen here

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you can imagine what most of the people

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said the buzzwords artifacts anomalies

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but you know anomalies can be mistakes

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but anomalies can be new science can be

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new physics so then I repeated this and

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here did is something different instead

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of just creating an internal resonance I

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tried to irradiate transmit energies out

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the effects that even stronger my

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colleague a radiologist just left the

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room stumping out my wife Nancy who is

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going to be here later talking told me

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the whole story he said look you are

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either breaking the laws of physics or

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you broke my machine I got worried

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because these machines are really

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expensive but then well we try to

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separate all the variables I suppose you

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know what is fMRI phantom reference is

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just about of water with some little

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things there you put inside of the

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machine has no metabolism this should be

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the same and independent of any external

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condition so you can calibrate the

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machine so I did a lot of experiments

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with the bottle there doing nothing and

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it always gray but only the moment I

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start sanding and other people also

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energy to the water these things showed

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up there my friend got even more scared

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I have a video but time does not allow

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me if you want I can show you later here

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but look I put a chicken active because

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a much more complex kind of jet of

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object chemically speaking but has no

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internal metabolism has no behavior is

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not prone to anxiety expecting yourself

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to something to happen there so here you

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can see before I transmit energy when I

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start transmitting energy all these

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images show up inside of the egg you can

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see this in the video because when I

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start you can hear the command from my

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friend star

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it takes five seconds and these things

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lit up when my friend tells me from the

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control room

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stop I stop it takes five seconds and

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these things they disappear again and

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again so it's an interesting that's an

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artifact that follows my intention

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it's a synchronized artifact because at

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the beginning we considered everything

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cosmic rays having a shower of neurons

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here whatever we considered everything

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that we could okay so the video is

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really interesting more than just the

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static images look here is something

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even more interesting one of my

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colleagues I thought okay what about you

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doing something name of science you know

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don't you want to be my guinea pig he

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get he got there inside of the machine

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but without knowing when I was going to

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transmit energy to him the ideas obvious

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to cut off what expectation some kind of

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worry whatever so here is his brain you

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know one example of many different

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moments just waiting but then when I

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start descending energies to him can you

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see the difference in the image the

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little dots of light appearing here

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certainly here we don't have the color

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resolution but in the computer you can

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see this really well so his brain showed

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the bold signal without an internal

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change and later on when I stopped it

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disappeared again so there is something

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there happening I don't know if you know

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but function MRI is very complex the

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relation noise signal to noise is really

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low there are problems with statistical

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calculations there it's very prone to

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this criticism of artifacts so then I

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started using spectroscopy there is more

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like a chemical analysis here you can

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see egg yolk because we put an egg there

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but we focus the whole machine on the

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yolk this is the chemical profile the

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machine is preset for some particular

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amino acids there of the egg yolk before

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I sent energy and this is later I mean

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under the energy so you'll see here is

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like changing the chemistry of this here

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with egg white basically the same thing

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here with collagen look how the curves

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change so there's a lot less prone to

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the artifacts but here have some

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discussions conclusions but I think we

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don't have at the time but my point is

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that one day I think we will be able let

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me see here to create a whole technology

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based on this bioenergy we can develop

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the components as it happened to

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electricity so we can have a whole new

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form of technology working functioning

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with this bioenergy so later on if you

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have time it can show the rest of these

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transparencies and the videos all of

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this a lot more dynamic then what's

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shown here thank you thank you very much

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maybe we can combined later on we can

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have a couple of show your videos show

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John stuff and and do it before so great

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anybody wants to come back and we'll

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we'll have a show-and-tell extra when

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you were trying to send energy were you

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right next to the person right next to

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the machine have you tried doing this

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remotely in terms of sending energy I

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tried from the control room that is

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outside of that Farda cage but I thought

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of doing this from a much farther

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distance I still have to do that but in

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this case for instance of the person my

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friend and the a guy was out of the

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machine but inside of the shielded no

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how could they say area there but I

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wasn't inside of the core of the coil

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there of course

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besides the cases when I had my own

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brain there inside ya think yes

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a great talk I have a I'm happy to see

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that you mentioned something about a day

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and I'd like to follow that up with you

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but I'm happy to hear that you you used

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an egg in research on an egg and I have

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some information

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for you but what I'd like to ask you as

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a wider question people are increasingly

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talking about information and I'm

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wondering if you could give us a more

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specific definition of what you believe

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that is or what you mean by information

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is one thing difficult to define about

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information can be described as meaning

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or a level of organization of something

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so is the opposite of entropy a system

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can be disorganized something can happen

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to organize a system so this direction

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is less probable we statistically

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statistically can go much faster to

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entropy but I think even we could

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discuss of different types of

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information because when we say inhaling

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there is a kind of information transfer

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I don't think that kind of information

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is the of the same nature of the

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information we have in bits in computers

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qubits if you will okay

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entanglement but you still know very

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little about that I was fascinating with

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you discussing in the very beginning the

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retention of the experience sometimes

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you get it sometimes you don't I was

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curious you know William Bowman talks

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about at Graham Nicol talks about it

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trying to find new practices and how to

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retain that information have you done

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any EEG experimentation to see what

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brain stage the brain is in we do these

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this was the first thing I did in 1992

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I'm Dennis kept you know some ears tried

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again but now recently with a colleague

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who has one of these machines just

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before coming here like four days ago we

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were doing this again when I do this

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these very same things under the EEG

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there are some things very interesting

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for instead there is a kind of

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synchronization of many different areas

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there is a lot of gamma waves in a very

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high frequency what is interesting is

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that I have a lot of gamma waves in my

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frontal lobes and a lot of Delta in my

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occipital lobe it's almost getting the

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brain to the opposites we don't know

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exactly all the aspects of that but many

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times when you do this you increase a

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lot your sense of self-awareness

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you're ception but we have to understand

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that better even the shape of some waves

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are completely different from the normal

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but this is still something to be better

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discussed but we have a lot of

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interesting things there very quickly

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please thank you very quickly I just

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want to make a quick conceptual concept

555
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we tend to a throw subtle energy

556
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altogether but if you read the

557
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literature of Chinese medicine and Qi

558
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you know prana in Indian literature and

559
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Reich's organ I think they're describing

560
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different things and it's almost the

561
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metaphor I think of is sort of like oh

562
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we've discovered there's fluid in the

563
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body and we think of all fluids is the

564
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same where there's probably a more

565
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attenuated thing going on there so I

566
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just wanted to I think your

567
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observationally because they see exactly

568
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same way you were saying there is a kind

569
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of natural energy and differentiating

570
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the universe is a kind of energy the

571
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energy coming from someone from a person

572
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is a different kind of energy when a few

573
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energy from the ocean or from a big

574
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mountain they are different so we have

575
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to be more precise with this class

576
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intention in time

577
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thank you orbs really passion it's a

578
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great presentation thank you I'm really

579
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happy to see you're finding these

580
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correlations have you done anything with

581
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bio photons just with a friend

582
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I suppose you know Beverly Rubik yes so

583
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NASA and I went to her lab like three or

584
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four times and we got very interest

585
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interesting results she considered the

586
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best result so far she got inside of

587
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that dark chamber the one she did with

588
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me you know because there was the

589
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largest change with the the

590
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photomultiplier here in my heart chakras

591
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they say working with the energy or not

592
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a big spike and you just need to have an

593
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opportunity to go back them or come see

594
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me we've done great

595
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we've done some bioenergy without a body

596
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experience as well and see some

597
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connections if I can talk to you later

598
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I appreciate thank you very much thank

599
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you thank you thank you very much for

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the opportunity